bridgey
Clearing the weeds
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Post by bridgey on Apr 23, 2016 16:47:43 GMT
So you got the best of both worlds down america lane You get control of your site while still having the security Of authority owned ground. Don't waste it. One thing is a bit worrying. The announcement that you now have to wait for the Town clerk to contact you Why? You were given authority to go ahead so go ahead. Get your committee organised and get going. After all if you had taken notice of the questionnaire You wouldn't be in the driving seat now
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Post by wilbarra on Apr 24, 2016 7:34:56 GMT
SO SO WRONG BRIDGEY. THIS IDEA OF A COMMITTEE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO IS IN THE DRIVING SEAT. ITS ABOUT THE COMING TOGETHER OF EVERYBODY, THE TOWN HALL,THE COUNCIL AND THE PLOT HOLDERS AND EVERYBODY PULLING TOGETHER TO GET WHATS BEST FOR ALL PARTIES. I AND A COUPLE OF OTHER FIRST PUT THE IDEA OF A COMMITTEE RUN SITE FORWARD IN 2006 AND IT WAS TURNED DOWN. THE IDEA THEN AS IT IS NOW IS TO GET A BETTER RUN SITE WITH EVERYBODY COOPERATING WITH EACH OTHER. NOT THE YA BOOING AT EACH OTHER THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST. THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY I AGREE WITH WHAT BRIDGEY HAD TO SAY WAS THAT WE SHOULD GET GOING ON THE IDEA STRAIGHT AWAY. IT WAS PROPOSED AT THE MEETING,WITH NO OBJECTIONS,THAT MURRAY HEADS THE COMMITTEE. SO MURRAY IN THE WORDS OF A PAST TELEVISION PRESENTER"THE REST IS UP TO YOU"
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Post by murrayc on Apr 24, 2016 8:23:50 GMT
SO SO WRONG BRIDGEY. THIS IDEA OF A COMMITTEE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO IS IN THE DRIVING SEAT. ITS ABOUT THE COMING TOGETHER OF EVERYBODY, THE TOWN HALL,THE COUNCIL AND THE PLOT HOLDERS AND EVERYBODY PULLING TOGETHER TO GET WHATS BEST FOR ALL PARTIES. I AND A COUPLE OF OTHER FIRST PUT THE IDEA OF A COMMITTEE RUN SITE FORWARD IN 2006 AND IT WAS TURNED DOWN. THE IDEA THEN AS IT IS NOW IS TO GET A BETTER RUN SITE WITH EVERYBODY COOPERATING WITH EACH OTHER. NOT THE YA BOOING AT EACH OTHER THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST. THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY I AGREE WITH WHAT BRIDGEY HAD TO SAY WAS THAT WE SHOULD GET GOING ON THE IDEA STRAIGHT AWAY. IT WAS PROPOSED AT THE MEETING,WITH NO OBJECTIONS,THAT MURRAY HEADS THE COMMITTEE. SO MURRAY IN THE WORDS OF A PAST TELEVISION PRESENTER"THE REST IS UP TO YOU" Very well put wilbarra. Thanks for the endorsement and I'm certainly not going to waste any time. I will be getting out a letter to all AL plotholders to let them know what is planned and to invite their contributions and that will go through the Council's mailing list as, rightly, they will not divulge address or other personal details to any other party. That will happen this week and in the meantime if anyone on this forum has a suggestion or wants to become involved with the committee - and I would particularly welcome women and younger plotholders as those two groups make up so much of the social mix nowadays - then please send me a PM to set the ball rolling.
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bridgey
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Post by bridgey on Apr 24, 2016 9:20:28 GMT
I know wilbara dosnt want to be part of the Committee. At 83 the old boy is getting past it but you Would be mad not to use his experience. He has a unique knowledge of your site and all That has happened on it having kept an allotment Diary since he was 12. He also knows allotment law inside out. Both come in very handy when it comes to putting Your case forward to another pa
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Post by wilbarra on Apr 24, 2016 9:57:48 GMT
YOU MUST HAVE VIEWS FROM ALL AGE GROUPS AND NOW THERE ARE SUCH A LOT OF LADY GARDENERS THEIR VIEWS MUST BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT MOST OF ALL MY OWN VIEW FOR WHAT ITS WORTH, IS THAT THE IDEAL COMMITTEE SHOULD CONSIST OF ONE OLD HAND AND TWO YOUNGER HANDS WHO CAN PUT THE VIEWS OF NOT JUST WHAT THEY THINK BUT WHAT THEIR OFF SPRING THINK. FROM MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE YEARS REALLY YOUNG PEOPLES VIEWS HAVE TOO EASILY BEEN OVERLOOKED BUT A BALANCE MUST BE KEPT IN THE SEARCH FOR VIEWS AND YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT ALL AGE GROUPS HAVE A VIEW POINT. BUT MOST OF ALL DONT WASTE THIS CHANCE OF HAVING YOUR VOICE HEARD.
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Post by wilbarra on Apr 25, 2016 8:26:40 GMT
ANYBODY WANT TO BE AN AMERICA LANE COMMITTEE MEMBER? ITS NOT JUST A CASE OF PUTTING YOUR NAME FORWARD AND THEN WRITING DOWN A FEW IDEAS OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD HAPPEN AND THEN SIT BACK AND LET THEM HAPPEN. ALL OF YOU HAVE GOT TO BE PREPARED TO PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND TROUBLE INTIALLY AND THAT INCLUDES THE TOWN HALL AND COUNCILLORS. THE TOWN CLERK HAS GOT TO LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE TELL HIM AND PUT WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, TO THE COUNCIL AND NOT HIS VERSION OF WHAT HE WAS TOLD, AS HE IS WONT TO DO AT THE MOMENT. THE COUNCILLORS HAVE ,NOW AND AGAIN, GOT TO DO THE JOB THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO AND FIND OUT FOR THEMSELVES THE PROBLEMS, IF ANY, THAT ARISE AND NOT JUST TAKE AS GOSPEL WHAT THEY ARE TOLD ROUND THE COUNCIL TABLE. THE PEOPLE ON THE ALLOTMENT COMMITTEE HAVE GOT TO BE PREPARED TO, SOMETIMES, QUESTION WHAT THEY ARE TOLD BY THE CLERK OR THE COUNCIL AND STAND THEIR GROUND AND REMEMBER THAT THEY REPRESENT THE PLOT HOLDERS FIRST AND FOREMOST. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A RECIPE "FOR LET BATTLE COMMENCE" BUT IT ISNT IT ALL CAN WORK SMOOTHLY IF EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. AFTER ALL ITS BETTER TO JAW JAW JAW THAN TO WAR WAR WAR. SO TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO PUT THEIR NAME FORWARD AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER. DONT JUMP ON THE CART UNLESS YOU ARE PREPARED TO TAKE YOUR TURN AT DRIVING THE HORSE.GOOD
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Post by jane on May 3, 2016 12:51:11 GMT
I am happy to help out if you are still wanting some plotholders to help with the America Lane site.
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Post by murrayc on May 14, 2016 12:47:21 GMT
The committee will be formed from those who have been nominated or have nominated themselves following the letter sent by the Town Clerk: Murray Crump, John King, Jane Hack, Phil Kingsley.
The objectives of the committee are to improve the allotment experience for everyone through sharing our own experience and ideas and working with the Town Council to produce a practical and effective Allotments policy. Come and talk to any of us to give us your suggestions or questions that you want to see resolved on anything from rents to car access, and from security of the site to being good neighbours: all ideas are very welcome.
We will keep you updated on progress through this forum, the noticeboard on the site, and further mailings.
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bridgey
Clearing the weeds
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Post by bridgey on May 14, 2016 17:17:48 GMT
Don't mind helping out with some Manuel Work at diferant times If needed
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Post by murrayc on Jun 14, 2016 7:57:13 GMT
The America Lane Plotholders committee (ALP) made a very well-received presentation last night to the council's Enviroment & General Purposes Committee, chaired by Cllr Jeffers. Councillors were happy with all proposals made from our discussions with plotholders and will form the basis of a new Allotments Policy to be developed this summer with input from Oathall and from the Town Clerk and his team Some key points: Accurate measurement of plot sizes so it is clear what is being paid for. Large plots given up will not automatically be cut into 2 1/2 rod plots - new plot sizes should be managed to meet the needs and abilities of individual applicants. Set up a community plot for the benefit of all plotholders, to be maintained by them, so that there is a place to meet, to exchange produce, for children to play and learn about the allotment experience, for some small communal beds to be maintained. Clear ownership of maintenance by council for facilities such as tarmac, water, toilets and security and responsibilities of plotholders to report problems. Good neighbour practices - ALP will use common sense and the goodwill of all plotholders to promote sound, sustainable ideas to take pride in our plots. Fun - Watch this space for news of our first social event coming soon!
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