patc
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Post by patc on Jun 29, 2017 5:55:16 GMT
Patsy last night reported on Facebook that the key was not working.I went down today at 6.45am and still jammed so I will contact the town hall at 9am to request a new one today.
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patc
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Post by patc on Jun 29, 2017 6:47:13 GMT
Sorry I meant lock not key!!!
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claref
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Jul 9, 2017 15:32:06 GMT
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Post by claref on Jul 9, 2017 15:32:06 GMT
Has the lock been replaced already? We couldn't get in or out yesterday. A kind gent put wd40 on the lock, but unfortunately it didn't make any difference.
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Post by murrayc on Jul 9, 2017 21:23:05 GMT
Has the lock been replaced already? We couldn't get in or out yesterday. A kind gent put wd40 on the lock, but unfortunately it didn't make any difference. Hi claref. Yes, I can confirm it is a new padlock and occasionally a little stiff but I have tried with two different keys and it should work.
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Post by wilbarra on Jul 10, 2017 16:23:51 GMT
all one has to do is to withdraw the key very slightly as you turn it in the lock. do the same thing when the lock gets worn later on.
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claref
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Jul 15, 2017 20:29:26 GMT
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Post by claref on Jul 15, 2017 20:29:26 GMT
Thanks for the reply and the tip. Unfortunately that didn't work and we still can't get in, so we'll speak to the council about our key.
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Post by murrayc on Jul 15, 2017 20:49:32 GMT
I know that is really frustrating claref and I will also be talking to the Council about the problems we are having. It is essential that we have a secure site, but it must be one that we can use freely and without worry about being locked in - or out!
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Post by Admin on Jul 21, 2017 13:38:23 GMT
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Post by murrayc on Jul 23, 2017 11:57:15 GMT
Quite a few of us were on the site this morning between 9 and 11 and Gareth had found and oiled a previous lock of the same pattern, dating from at least 2001, possibly earlier. At least 8 people tried their keys in this lock and generally found it much easier but this is not a full solution because the results did vary, some having to fiddle the key around for a while before the lock engaged the pillar. That lock is being kept open today and the last person out will close it manually.
I also conducted a very unofficial survey and there was agreement that of the two long-term solutions - a completely new lock and customised keys with recall for all the old patterns, or a combination lock - that the combination lock would be much preferred, with the caveats that the digits should be large enough to be read easily by everyone without recourse to reading glasses, and that the code should be changed periodically for security.
I will send this to Helen now and visit her early tomorrow with the new lock, and will recommend that the Council takes up the second option. It does seem that the problems with key-cutting to fit standard padlocks are so complex now that the security and well-being of people using the site is endangered, and safety must be paramount.
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Post by wilbarra on Jul 23, 2017 12:30:11 GMT
the new lock that the security guard put on the gate yesterday afternoon worked perfectly both with my old key and with the new one she gave. i know it worked when maurice tried it just after me. as it did with someone else who was down there at the time. she had a new key. the new lock that was on the gate this morning was not the same one that was on there yesterday morning. does this mean that the new keys that were handed out yesterday afternoon will now no longer fit. i do think the new lock that the security guard put on yesterday afternoon should have stayed considering that new keys were going to be issued with it and that it worked perfectly with the new keys.
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neal
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Jul 23, 2017 15:55:12 GMT
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Post by neal on Jul 23, 2017 15:55:12 GMT
Quite a few of us were on the site this morning between 9 and 11 and Gareth had found and oiled a previous lock of the same pattern, dating from at least 2001, possibly earlier. At least 8 people tried their keys in this lock and generally found it much easier but this is not a full solution because the results did vary, some having to fiddle the key around for a while before the lock engaged the pillar. That lock is being kept open today and the last person out will close it manually. I also conducted a very unofficial survey and there was agreement that of the two long-term solutions - a completely new lock and customised keys with recall for all the old patterns, or a combination lock - that the combination lock would be much preferred, with the caveats that the digits should be large enough to be read easily by everyone without recourse to reading glasses, and that the code should be changed periodically for security. I will send this to Helen now and visit her early tomorrow with the new lock, and will recommend that the Council takes up the second option. It does seem that the problems with key-cutting to fit standard padlocks are so complex now that the security and well-being of people using the site is endangered, and safety must be paramount.
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Jul 23, 2017 19:42:42 GMT
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Post by jane on Jul 23, 2017 19:42:42 GMT
Patsy was locked in tonight and altho I was on the way to rescue her - she managed eventually to open the lock and escape!!
I am rather confused now as to what padlock is on and what's happening - but I would support a new combination lock padlock asap.
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Post by wilbarra on Jul 23, 2017 21:47:02 GMT
i also had trouble with the lock this evening. whatever lock is finally decided , in the meantime and first thing tomorrow morning the lock that the security guard put on yesterday afternoon should be put back on the gate. it worked perfectly yesterday afternoon for three of us cant see why it didnt work today. its certainly better than the one we have got now. just to add the security guard gave up some of her time off to bring the new lock down and most certainly helen has done her best in the matter.
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claref
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Jul 24, 2017 18:01:25 GMT
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Post by claref on Jul 24, 2017 18:01:25 GMT
Quite a few of us were on the site this morning between 9 and 11 and Gareth had found and oiled a previous lock of the same pattern, dating from at least 2001, possibly earlier. At least 8 people tried their keys in this lock and generally found it much easier but this is not a full solution because the results did vary, some having to fiddle the key around for a while before the lock engaged the pillar. That lock is being kept open today and the last person out will close it manually. I also conducted a very unofficial survey and there was agreement that of the two long-term solutions - a completely new lock and customised keys with recall for all the old patterns, or a combination lock - that the combination lock would be much preferred, with the caveats that the digits should be large enough to be read easily by everyone without recourse to reading glasses, and that the code should be changed periodically for security. I will send this to Helen now and visit her early tomorrow with the new lock, and will recommend that the Council takes up the second option. It does seem that the problems with key-cutting to fit standard padlocks are so complex now that the security and well-being of people using the site is endangered, and safety must be paramount. It was lovely to meet you and chat about our out of control tomatoes. I completely agree with the combination lock. No matter what padlock you go with (old or new), someone will still be stuck in or out of the allotment unless all the keys are replaced.
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Post by wilbarra on Jul 24, 2017 18:38:16 GMT
the answer is not a combination lock the answer is to issue new keys for the new lock that was fitted on saturday afternoon. which i understand is going to happen the combination lock sounds good but has many drawbacks. not least the number of people apart from plot holders who have to know the number o f the combination lock. it has been tried before and didnt work. as the people who use the site daily ,including the maintence men,come and go without any trouble have you stopped and consider that it could be you or your key and the vway you use it that is at fault
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